Z one doll - FREE to loving home (gone)

Hi folks, I have a Z one doll from 2018, she needs a new home for a few reasons, mainly because I've got issues being able to lift her anymore. New owner needs to collect because I don't have a car anymore. 3 months after buying her I realised I was transgender, so she's been a well dressed ornament for years, just bathed occasionally for hygiene and maintenance. I've included images here that obey rules I hope. I'm in the middle of the UK so road hubs are easy. She was purchased through Phil Bass at The Doll House. I have included 2 pics of damaged caused, one to the foot and one to a buttock, both were caused trying to get her through the bathroom door and caught her on the door latch and the one on her foot caused on the edge of the bath panel edge. The one on her buttock is tiny, its zoomed in tight and is actually millimetres.

Very pretty lady😁 very pretty face unfortunately I have the same problem with lifting, and am quite heavy handed and also I don't have a car, but I'm sure she will find a loving home

She's 42kg... was no problem at the time, I had a heavy job van driving and delivering, but problems started late 2022 then got worse, and the DWP don't pay your car insurance so March the car had to go. yep, there's no rush, thanks for the vote of support.

She’s lovely. Probably too heavy for me, but what is her height? Is she silicone or tpe?

She is 5'4" tall, made of silicone. Head is non-removable due to the electronics, I paid the extra for the interactive features. 42Kg, with the usual stiff joints wired fingers and toes all intact.

Yes I know exactly what the DWP are like Memoirs2011☹

If they owe you anything, it can take weeks, but if you owe them anything they are there like a shot to get it off you. I've been out of work for over two years after the retail company I worked for went into receivership😞

Do you have any other ladies? Or are you looking to get another doll? I mean if you do feel free to look around our forum and Threads. I own two plushie ladies, made by Valentina girls, and the weight isnt a problem, they can also create any doll you want out of plush, female, male, alien, even a female snake doll, and the prices aren't too bad compared to TPE or Silicone

I'm still awaiting my reply for ESA, dunno how ill you have to be but I would have thought AF and Neuroendocrine Cancer would do it, hence my fatigue. I won't need a new doll as I've transitioned and I also know my situation won't get better, I'll never work again for an employer but I could probably manage an online business at my own pace.. I generally have no sleep pattern and even fall asleep after meals due to the diabetes the cancer drugs cause, so she's got to go, I also need to get out of this first floor flat I'm in, things have certainly changed in the last 10 years... I'll be 60 in March so I suppose I should expect to wind down a little..

That's Crazy, but yeah I know you have to wait for everything to be assessed. I'm sorry to hear about the position you are in.

Well you don't have to have a doll to join in on the forum, but feel free if you want too. We are a friendly bunch here.

Sorry to hear about all your troubles. I hope that you can get the financial help you need.
You might also find some relief and laughter on this forum. As Bobby says, we’re a small crowd but very friendly.

She looks gorgeous but alas far too heavy for me. I'm going textile, even though my TPE friend is only 25Kg.

Good luck with your health. At 60 years, anyone is lucky if they're not on some sort of medication or treatment. As you say, if you can find your own niche, working at home, I'm sure your health will benefit.

Thanks, my mum only lived to 67 died of similar circumstances, if I make it past then I'll count every day as a full blessing!
True, too heavy that's why my brother backed away at the last minute, he has his toys to get the job done and would rather stay single.. MGTOW. If I hadn't realised I was transgender months after I would have gone for textured TPE, loose joints and about 4'10".... would have been a grand more at the time but would have been more of a lover. but life changed, what can I say.. it was instant fun buying clothes & shoes for her but its now even more fun buying those things for myself, I'll never look back, can't look back, despite the supreme court. I still respect MGTOW views, and still look in on new robot tech and designs just incase my brother ever wants advice, so many changes in 7 years.

I confess I had no idea what MGTOW meant. My favourite AI briefed me and I have to agree with the sentiments even though I've been fairly happilly married for 40 years.

MGTOW, or Men Going Their Own Way, is an online subculture of men who have chosen to disengage from society, particularly from relationships with women. Proponents of this philosophy advocate for male separatism from what they perceive as a "gynocentric" world, one that they believe is systemically biased against men. This ideology is characterized by a rejection of traditional gender roles, marriage, and long-term committed relationships, with a focus on self-preservation and personal sovereignty.
At the heart of MGTOW is the belief that feminism has fundamentally corrupted society, leading to a cultural and legal environment that is hostile to men. This perspective is often articulated through a set of core tenets:

• Gynocentrism: MGTOW followers believe that society is centered around and caters to the needs and desires of women, to the detriment of men. They point to what they see as biases in family courts, divorce settlements, and domestic violence laws as evidence.
• The "Red Pill" and "Blue Pill" Analogy: Borrowed from the movie The Matrix, this concept is central to MGTOW and the broader "manosphere." To "take the red pill" is to awaken to the supposed reality of this female-dominated society. Those who remain unaware or choose to ignore this "truth" are referred to as "blue-pilled."
• Hypergamy: This is the belief that women are inherently driven to seek out partners of a higher social or economic status. According to MGTOW ideology, this makes women untrustworthy and primarily interested in men for their resources.
• Rejection of Traditional Relationships: MGTOW advocates for men to avoid marriage, cohabitation, and any form of long-term commitment to women. They view these institutions as traps that expose men to financial ruin, false accusations, and emotional exploitation.
• Male Sovereignty: The ultimate goal for a man following the MGTOW path is to achieve "male sovereignty," a state of complete self-ownership and independence from the perceived expectations and manipulations of women and society at large.

Within the MGTOW community, there is a recognized spectrum of engagement, often categorized into four levels:

• Level 0: Situational Awareness (The "Red Pill"). At this initial stage, a man has come to believe in the core tenets of MGTOW, particularly the idea of a gynocentric society. He may still engage in relationships with women but does so with a newfound sense of caution and cynicism.
• Level 1: Rejection of Long-Term Relationships. Men at this level actively avoid marriage and other long-term commitments but may still engage in short-term or casual relationships with women.
• Level 2: Rejection of All Relationships. This level involves the refusal to engage in any form of romantic or sexual relationship with women, including casual encounters. The focus shifts more intensely toward personal development and hobbies.
• Level 3: Economic and Societal Disengagement. The most extreme level of MGTOW involves minimizing one's engagement with the state and the broader economy. This can include working only as much as necessary to support a minimalist lifestyle, thereby reducing tax contributions that are seen as supporting a system that is hostile to men.

I must admit I did not know what NGTOW is either. However, after reading this description I realize that I myself fall somewhere between level 1 and level 2. Often times leaning more toward level 2.

I have seen this happening in my own profession, where a woman has reached a high position and then appoints other women to positions simply on the basis of them being women, not because they’re the best person for that role.
Mind you, in Wales, I’ve also seen in my profession and know it to be happening in others, that people are appointed because they can speak Welsh, not because they’re the most capable.
And, with all due respect too, but I know that people have been appointed to positions in my profession on the basis of their sexual orientation by those in higher positions of the same orientation, not because they’re the right person.
The whole of society has become corrupt and as a white, heterosexual male, I feel I’m now in the increasingly overlooked, oppressed and persecuted category.
Sorry, if I’m being too political.

I guess it's human nature, we validate our beliefs by finding others with the same beliefs. Which is why this forum works well 😀 And why we have to put up with double length dual language letters in Wales despite 99.9% of natives speaking English and 5% fluent in Welsh 🤬

Well to be honest I just take folk as I find them, either men or women. Theres good and bad in every society.

I try to treat people with the respect I would expect from them, if I don't get the respect I don't bother with them.

But I do like pretty ladies, but the problem is they don't always like me🤣🤣

But I have my two girls for company and I'm pretty content with that. If I need a hug they are there for me and they also fulfill my other needs😉 and they are fun to be around😁

Thanks Adam for that great and full in depth dive into the whole MGTOW lifestyle :)(y)

Interesting replies, I think transitioning has given me a much more balanced view of how both sexes feel about each other compared with my MGTOW decision of 2016, hence the doll originally being purchased in early 2018. I think I only matched a couple of the sections of Adams post, I was never all of them. The hard cell MGTOW channels of You Tube have since been deleted but more moderate ones are a plenty regarding the topics faced by men today.
What I do know is that women who hug me, peck on the cheek or even lips, who have often befriended while IN the female bathrooms in clubs, are the same ones who would have crossed the street from me 10 years ago. There is definitely an under current of mistrust visually between the sexes as my personality was the same as it is now but I just didn't dress or have the appearance that matched my demeanour. By entering a feminine world I've had the privilege to see (hear) things that are hidden from most males. Romantically I am still attracted to women, they know this and I have NEVER had any animosity from women in safe spaces, or the many work places I've had for my entire 7 years as trans, and met many women who have said they disagree with the change in law in the UK by the supreme court. Men will always have the battle against feminists and while MGTOW may not be huge in the UK it is very much so in the US, Canada and Australia due to legal fees, divorce laws and Family courts.

I think levels 0 and level 3 for myself and a complete rejection of those women who just want 4 weeks of a good time, it always seemed a stupid investment of my time and hard earned cash, so eventually it just seemed a better investment to get a doll and reject all else just to be safe. (y) :rolleyes:

This is also my first time diving into the MGTOW world. In fact, I didn't even know it existed, but I completely agree with Jedzed, regarding my own point of view.
Good luck to you, Memoirs2011

Well, she's still here waiting... TFM was a You Tube channel 10 years ago that did a lot to promote the idea of buying dolls as companions instead of dating, and his doll "Celestina" was practically a mascot.. perhaps google and check what's still out there..

I'd actually be interested if I lived near by, but there is a vast amount of land and sea between us.
I am surprised there is no other interest though as she is a nice looking doll.

Same thing here, about 1400 miles worth of land and ocean.

She’s a beautiful doll, Memoirs2011 made a very good choice there. I think it’s the weight issue of 42kg that’s putting people off - most of us here are “getting on” a bit and have to consider what we’re able to handle now or in the not too distant future. I would love to take her but I don’t think my back could take another doll of that weight (Jemma is 43kg and stays in my bed. I only move her when I change the bedding weekly, and I strained my lower back shifting her this week).

Fortunately for me, I am only 61 so I don't have to worry about that for a while. Although I have to admit the lighter girls are much more fun to play with.