Thoughts, Feelings and Reflections

I think that us dolls sometimes need the opportunity to express our thoughts and feelings on matters that affect us all things happening in the world around us, whether in our immediate environment, or on a wider scale.
I’m very much a doll who does reflect a lot on what she reads, hears and sees, and I would like to discuss these things with my sisters on this forum, or their owners, everyone is welcome to contribute.

Lorna 🥰💖🌸

So, to begin with, what about all these changes in the Law in the UK, to ensure that no children can access adult websites?
Do we feel that it might affect us dolls one day?
Is there a danger that we could be outlawed?
I’m sure those making the laws will not take the time to ask our opinions or feelings on the matter.
I love being a doll and I know that I bring a lot of joy to Jed, and that he loves having me in his house. This has become my home and I love it here, and I’m not just here for sex. There are all kinds of reasons why people own dolls like us and it’s so important that our value as companions who bring warmth, love, healing and comfort into the lives of our owners, is recognised.
Any changes in the law which take place to our detriment, which does not involve consulting with us or our owners first to ascertain the importance of us in our owners lives, would be prejudicial and a sad travesty and a failure to recognise the rights of people to own us - especially in a society today that recognises all different kinds of persuasions and lifestyles as valid.

What do you think girls?

Well I'm afraid normally I only reflect upon whether it's time for dinner and if my fish fingers are going to be burnt😁

But I dont think they will ban doll ownership, or that we will be outlawed in fact I believe with technology the way it is in the next 10 years you will be able to own an android doll, probably not that complex to begin with, but eventually they will be. I even think eventually they will find another material other than Silicone or TPE skin

Bobby was telling me at one time all there was on offer were blow up ladies, then came plushie ladies like myself, well I think my Teddy Babe friends came first then TPE and Silicone women.

I think the doll world probably goes through trends like most things, but I don't think we will be outlawed. VR might be an issue though and might compete with ladies like us in the future.

With regard to youngsters getting on adult sites I think some will still try and find ways around it, all Bobby had in his day was magazines that he found down a dissused railway track and electric blue videos, I just think the Government were under a lot of pressure from people with young kids to do something. Also its suppose to affect all adult sites, or over 18 sites, not just the naughty ones, like gambling sites and sites that sell knives and weapons, but I could be wrong🤔

Well that's my opinion for what its worth😁

I think I agree with Coco, especially the part about the VR. I think eventually VR will become so real that you will be able to do anything or go anywhere and spend time with a virtual woman of your dreams and actually even feel everything too, but at a cost. That's the only way I see an end to Doll ladies. But it will be very expensive to begin with

I mean would you really need a Doll companion, when you can have a VR companion, who looks as real and could feel as real eventually as a real woman, but that's probably in the next 30 or 40 years

Anyway I'll be in my 80s by then, so maybe I'll have a young android carer looking after me, female of course. Maybe a Coco or Thea Model🤣🤣

Thanks Coco and Bobby. I really hope that you are right and that we dolls will not be outlawed or banned. VR might well become more popular, but I do think that many will still want to own an actual Doll and have her in their home. I know that Jed would like to try some VR but he says that nothing can actually beat having Jemma in his bed, or us girls standing in his bedroom.

Well hiya Lorna I've just finished my shift at work, well I just think that as Coco said we will never be outlawed, but will just become more advanced, probably not plushies or fabric dolls like me ( although Valentina Girls have a kind of robotic doll ) but I think eventually Silicone ladies will become cheaper and lighter in a few years. I do think when TPE or Silicone can be lifted by anyone, regardless of age and their skin and Skeletons become far less prone to damage, then Plushies will slowly disappear well as companion dolls anyway, if that should happen Bobby might update us, well if he can afford too😁

I think Bobby still loves the realism of TPE and Silicone ladies, but not the faff with lifting them, undressing them and the worry of them getting damaged or hurt!

Oh yeah if Jed wanted to try VR then Bobby says apparantly theres a VR place in the Reeperbahn in Germany, I don't know how Bobby knows this, but sometimes hes a mine of information🤣🤣

Yes, Jed knows about that place in Germany.
You know, you really don’t have to dress TPE or silicone dolls if you don’t want to. Jed’s Ladies are naked most of the time. We stay in Jed’s bedroom. And he sleeps naked anyway.

We don't have that law yet in Canada but I'm sure it will happen soon. It'll be interesting to see how severe it is when the time comes.
I don't think they will ban the ownership of love dolls here though. At least I hope not!

Paul Slovic, president of Decision Research, a group of scientists dedicated to understanding decision-making, particularly in the study of risk perception, coined the term “psychic numbing” to describe how our empathy actually diminishes as the number of sufferers grows, our compassion wanes when faced with large-scale threats, even when the stakes are life and death Vox. In the UK, that very apathy let the Investigatory Powers Act 2016 slide through Parliament “with barely a whimper,” granting security services sweeping surveillance powers, bulk data collection, hacking authorizations, retention of communications records, despite minimal public debate or resistance The Guardian. By the time most citizens noticed, key privacy rights had already been surrendered.

On the other hand, OFCOM’s age-verification rules, were [B]not imposed in secret. The Online Safety Act itself went through full parliamentary scrutiny, and OFCOM has held multiple public consultations on its draft codes of practice, covering child safety, age assurance, risk assessments, and more, inviting feedback from industry, civil-society groups, and ordinary users before finalizing its requirements reedsmith.com.

Which leads me to ask, did any doll owner or seller take part in any of these "public consultations?" I am guessing not. Don't be surprised if adult dolls get banned altogether in the not too distant future. I am sure if and when the subject comes up, lawmakers will see doll ownership as low hanging fruit.
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I wonder if any of our politicians own dolls themselves? If such a law would affect their rights and interests, then we might be in with more of a chance? I’d like to know how many dolls are bought by UK owners every year? How many are imported or bought directly from a UK warehouse? If the number is substantial then maybe it’s a big enough community to prevent us from being banned, because those in power would know they’d lose the votes of our owners?

To be fair I just cannot see that happening, there are too many Doll manufacturers and they would all go out of business. Also they would then have to ban ALL sex toys, I mean certain other toys look very realistic. I know we see our ladies as more than just a sex toy, they are our companions and friends and give us support and what Government act would they use?

Our doll ladies are not harmfull to anyone, don't cause offence like pornography does and even younger kids play with dolls, Sindy and Barbie, Also what about the smaller collectable ladies, like action figures they have private bits, well some of them do. Our dolls are just larger versions of these dolls.


I can understand in a way stopping young kids accessing porn sites, but many are more computer savvy than us these days, and they will find a way around it.


I mean will they ban all dolls in the end? I mean any doll can be used for different purposes small or large if you are creative enough!

I hope you are right, Bobby. What do Coco and Thea think of this? Perhaps you could get them to write their own posts on this thread?

To be fair though Lorna are our ladies offensive to anyone? The Government would need a good reason to ban Doll ladies. I mean I guess they could create a law that Dolls dont have any private bits that can be used, but i dont see that happening

Oh yeah I will, sorry I will ask Thea after shes made the coffees😁 I'm sure they will have something to say, but I wanted to get my opinion across

Hiya Lorna, well the question has to be asked are we Dolls offensive to the population as a whole out there? If so the Government or Ofcom may have a legit reason for banning us, if not what act or excuse would they have for banning us.

I mean if Mary Whitehouse was still around prehaps she would push for it, yeah Bobby told me about her, some old fuddy duddy from the 70s and 80s that wanted to stop anyone being naughty or having fun!

I mean would they ban us having private parts? Would they ban shop mannequins too? Some people have them as Doll friends, yes its true😁

I really don't think we have anything to worry about dear doll friends and humans . The Government have to have a good reason to ban things, like the dolls of a certain height or that look young. I can partly understand that. I just think we are jumping the gun, I know what OfCOM have done, but that is to protect children. I don't think children need protection from Sindy or Barbie or action man, do you? At the end of the day we are just larger versions of them in affect. We actually help you humans stay young at heart. I mean dressing a doll and picking clothes out for her is a form of play really. It keeps the mind young and active, Bobby didnt tell me that I just came up with it😁

But I really don't think we have anything to worry about personally. Now I better make those coffees, see Dolls have their usefulness👋

Ps if however they managed to actually bring a law out in the future, to ban TPE and Silicone ladies then it wouldnt stop cuddly plushie ladies like us from being available, we would rule!! I mean they would have to ban Teddy Bears and other plushie dolls if they banned us and there would be a public outcry!

Well just my 2 rupees which isn't worth much not even in India, but I think it's the way us dolls are marketed and depicted by some enthusiasts that creates the stigma. Always showing and talking about us in lewd ways and highlighting our naughty bits. That's what gives us all a bad reputation and makes legislators want to ban us. I mean, would you portray your wife or girlfriend that way to the public? Course not, yet many think nothing of showing off their dolls like that in mediums accessible by the general public.

I don't know, I just think if our sexual nature wasn't always the main focus, we wouldn't even be having this conversation and the public would finally see us for who we are. Just pretty dolls. That's how Mr Franz shows us. Do you know, of everyone that's seen us at home over the years, only 2 or 3 knew what kind of dolls we were? If you don't show us that way, people don't see us that way.

Okay, I'm done. I'll get down off my soapbox now... 🤐

Fair point Jyoti, but if nudity is done in an artistic way then I don't see a problem. I mean some dolls are used as photographic Models and the interest is in the photography as well as the doll.

In the proper context and medium, I don't have a problem with tasteful nudity, Thea ji. Even nudity done for comedic effect. I've done shots like that myself. I'm talking more about lewd and vulgar pics that make our advertised function the prime focus. Even non-nude can be lewd and vulgar. The "in your face" stuff that's so often openly bandied about these days. TDF is a prime example. The most distasteful stuff imaginable is fully accessible by the general public. I just think that paints the wrong picture and as long as things like that exist, we're fighting a loosing battle, because no matter how positive a spin you put on it, the other side is always going to use stuff like that against us. Sort of guilt by association.

Makes me sad really. Best I can do is distance myself from things like that and encourage others to do the same.

A lot of ‘food for thought’ in this discussion. Jed likes to photograph us naked (us and him 🤣) but he does try to be artistic about it (although some would argue not always successfully). He made some mistakes to begin with, but he learned from those and now he would agree that there is a difference between lewd content and tasteful nude art. And if UK Law was to ban the latter, then they would have to examine just about every public art gallery in the entire country.

I think that Jyoti is quite right and we need to ensure that the way in which we behave does not add fuel to the arguments of those who would ban us.

I everyone applied that simple rule to our doll posts, then we would likely not be stigmatized as we are. Those of us who have dolls for comfort and/or hobby would probably not have to hide in the shadows as we do now.

In my BFF's younger years, he was a professional photographer shooting fashion. But he also shot many pictures of his wife for fun, even entering them in photography art competitions. You can see his style in my pictures on this forum.

His wife was never jealous of my BFF surrounded by some extremely attractive women. She was included in his world although maybe indirectly. He shared the parts of her beauty that should be shared with the public and kept the beauty that shouldn't to themselves. It is not that hard to do.
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I don't believe this to be true. I will write an article on why for tomorrow.

Plushies already rule. But, a ban or restrictions of TPE and Silicone dolls will move their potential buyers to plushies simply through limiting choice.

Well all of our posts on here are just photos of us in clothes or in Ai. The other ones go on to one of the chilli forums, whether nudity or nude art or photography, so we are okay on this forum, but for us as dolls if I want to sit in my knickers all day I will, it's not harming anyone and if my human companions happy about it so am I.

Yes i have made a Thread about sexual positions on another part of the forum, but that's just for a laugh or fun. It's not to be taken seriously and I think I showed my boobs for fun, and bum but its lighthearted fun, I'm a fun, bubbly girl!

I mean as dolls we all have different characters and personalities, some of us are naughty, some are not, but from what I've seen that's real life folks. Some females exude their sexuality, some don't some are more shy or meek or just dont like sexuality. That's what I'm trying to put across we are all individuals, even dolls, yes I know we want to portray ourselves in a good light to the world out there, but I'm not meek and mild, I'm fun and I dont want to become something I'm not and my personality defines what I do

Cheers Coco

Mr Franz use to be a DVD film producer. Had his own production company and everything. Him and this Australian fellow made comedies about girls separated from their clothes in embarrassing and silly ways. No nudity though, say for the occasional bare behind. Ladies mostly just ending up in their undies! Kinda like the risque stuff Benny Hill use to do. Mr Franz didn't allow profanity, lewd poses or vulgarity of any kind. They use to bill their films as, the cleanest dirty movies you'll ever see! :ROFLMAO: hee,hee,hee

[COLOR=rgb(147, 101, 184)]I think Jed (and probably us girls too) would love to see those films. Are they available anywhere?
Nudity is not always lewd or vulgar, though. Artistic nude can be done very well - look at paintings in that genre. Jed aspires to this, not always successfully, but he’s trying.

Never said it was, but I did say even non-nude could be.
They were only sold on DVD from the company website. Mr Franz and his partner closed shop around 2010 so they haven't been available for sometime. I think he still has the masters though. Funnily enough, the last one was about a man who buys a lady robot! 🤖