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Getting Our Girls To Pose Naturally.

Esjayell
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#1 27 May 2025 at 7:57 PM 109 views
We can place our girl(s) in a chair, on the sofa or the floor, in fact anywhere at home and they will look right. Natural in fact, just as they would if they were human. Of course, if we are going to photograph them, then we need to pay attention to the details. For example, their hands, specifically their fingers and thumbs. How many humans have you seen with spiralling fingers, or thumbs that are in line with the fingers? Probably none, so why do we see it on dolls? We can spend considerable time getting the lighting right, doing their make up and getting their hair perfect, yet we forget about their hands, their legs or even their feet if they will be in the shot. We are concerned only with taking that shot. You may think that I never screw up, you are so wrong! I took this photo a few days ago. A quick glance it seems fine, but look closer, can you see what is wrong?

Two fingers of her left hand are spiralling.
Posing and photographing them outside gives us even greater challenges. One of the things you will need are props., maybe a ground sheet, beach or picnic mat, sun loungers or chairs, perhaps a wicker picnic basket for her to sit on or look in. When I take Elina out for the day ‘exploring’ she wears jeans. These are really useful as she can place her legs anyway she pleases as there is not a modesty issue. This is not the case with a dress or skirt. When Elina had her three beachdays, she wore a cover-up over her bikini, again no modesty issues as the cover-up will be removed so she can sun bathe in her bikini, which is acceptable on a beach. Some coastal towns near me permit a bikini to be worn on the sea front (Esplanade or Promenade) but not in the town proper.

Here’s Elina from her Beachdays
(part of the “Seasons” videos)

From Elina's First Beachday.
Her Third Beachday.

Her Third Beachday and Out Exploring.
When I took Rosina for her first outdoor photoshoot I quickly ran into issues, the wicker basket she was sitting on began to creak, I didn’t want to leave her sitting on it too long just in case. So I lifted her off and placed her on the ground. I had forgotten to replace the timber supports in the basket that takes the weight. With her wearing a dress, I had a dilemma, ‘how does a woman sit on the ground wearing a skirt or dress, what does she do with her legs?’ The next question was ‘where can I see this?’ On our return home I asked Google images, I was presented with many thousands of pictures, however as I soon discovered, these were of models posing. I wanted real people doing it naturally, something Google couldn’t sort. I would just have to think about this some more.



Rosina on Durdham Down.
I’m a perfectionist and I like things to be in order, one of those is the front seats of the car, they have to be in line, not just the squab but the backs as well as the head restraints. I noticed a flaw in my posing, in fact a lot of people seem to do it. I open the car door, go back to the house and carry whichever girl I am taking out to the car. My left arm is under her knees and my right arm is around her back, I place her feet first into the footwell, followed by her body going down on the seat. At the location she is removed in the same manner except in reverse. I place on her back on the ground with her legs in the air, then I just straighten her legs at the knees and sit her up. I had done this numerous times before I noticed my mistake. Can you spot it?

Rosina on Clifton Down.
She is leaning back against fresh air. We do not lean back unless there is something to lean back against, like a tree, wall or something else that’s solid. Nor do we sit upright, we normally sit leaning slightly forward. If you have a female visitor at your home, someone who knows you but is not a family member or close friend. When you offer them a seat, they will always sit close to the edge and bolt upright, this makes rising easier and quicker if they feel the need to get away quickly. Once they get comfortable in your company and feel safe they will then move back further into the chair. Human nature is a fascinating subject.

It was about 15.00 on Tuesday May 13, that I was taking some photographs of a very nice former farmhouse that is now part of the UWE (University West of England), as I walked around the building I was studying some of the students that were sitting out in the sun on the grass that were originally its fields. What I saw surprised me, I certainly wasn’t expecting that, I couldn’t take any photos of what I saw as I was too close. On Saturday I was out again this time on the edge of Durdham Down. There was a group of students, seven males and seven females having a barbecue. As I walked to and from the properties that I had to photograph I kept an eye on them, on my way back, and going towards them, I changed my lens to the 250mm one and set the camera on full auto. When I got to the place I thought would be ideal I raised the camera and took the shot. The females of this group were all sitting exactly as the women around the farm house.




Their faces have been hidden as they did not know, nor had they given their consent to be photographed.
The females of the group are all wearing either skirts or dresses, like the ones at Wallscourt Farmhouse and are sitting the same way with their legs crossed, just as we did when we were children at school and having the annual photograph taken. My question now is ‘when do women stop sitting like this and what do they do instead?’

So I asked Google this question: “AT WHAT AGE DO FEMALES STOP SITTING ON THE GROUND CROSS LEGGED WHEN WEARING SKIRTS OR DRESSES?” This is the reply I received “There isn't a specific age where females stop sitting cross-legged on the ground when wearing skirts or dresses. It's generally considered a personal preference and varies from person to person, regardless of age. Some women may continue to sit cross-legged out of habit, comfort, or practicality, while others may prefer to sit with their legs together or apart.

It's important to note that this behavior is influenced by cultural norms and societal expectations, which can vary across different regions and time periods. In some cultures, sitting with legs crossed might be seen as more formal or polite, while in others, it might be considered less appropriate.

Ultimately, the decision of whether or not to sit cross-legged is a personal one, and there's no right or wrong answer.”
On the same page I noticed this question “Why, when men are seated, do they mostly sit with their legs wide open, whereas we women mostly sit with our legs crossed or if not crossed, closed together even when wearing slacks?” Here’s the reply from Mats Andersson B. Sc, M. Sc from Uppsala University. “To a large extent, it has to do with how the femur attaches to the hip.

When males sit down in a relaxed position, the thighs point slightly outwards. When women sit down in a relaxed position, the thighs point slightly inwards. This is just a function of how the female pelvis is wider.

You can try this yourself, preferably at home with only your underwear so that clothing doesn’t interfere: if you are male, try to sit down on a chair with your knees touching. You actually have to exert quite a lot of force to keep the knees there! If you are female, try to sit with your legs separated by 30–45 degrees: you will have to exert some force to keep the knees apart.

With males, you have the additional issue that forcing the knees together makes the private parts uncomfortable. Clothing has some influence here.”


So there we have it, or at least some of it. As our girls will always be aged between eighteen and twenty five, unless she’s a RealDoll or BoysToy where the upper age is around thirty-five I believe, then they can sit on the ground with their legs crossed and leaning slightly forward with their elbows or fore-arms resting on their knees for support and not feel out of place, or doing something that isn’t ‘correct’ or ‘natural’ for a female of their age. Alternatively we could buy a fold-up fishing stool or a shooting stick so they would always have something to sit on, provided the height is right for them.


Finally one other 'lack of attention to detail' photo;

Rosina Enjoying the Coastal View

A rather nice relaxed pose on this bench, but look at her left hand. Her first finger is bent in an S shape. She doesn't have finger wires, so nothing got damaged. I was more concerned with getting her head looking in the correct direction, getting her hair to behave in the slight breeze than I was in checking the smaller details.

Regards,

S.
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#2 30 May 2025 at 6:57 AM 109 views
Very interesting post. Thanks for this.

I’ve had problems with spiralling fingers too, but whenever I’ve tried to reset the finger, I just find the TPE is twisted and I’m unable to do so.
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#3 30 May 2025 at 8:33 AM 109 views
Must be some good material here for the start of a little booklet (y):)
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#4 30 May 2025 at 1:00 PM 109 views
Jedzed said:
I just find the TPE is twisted and I’m unable to do so.
Hold the finger close to the knuckle (the middle finger joint) to secure the finger and the wire. Now pull the finger tip away from the knuckle to break the grip of the tpe on the cotton wrap that covers the finger-wire. Beware of finger pokes as the finger tip comes away from the wire! Continue moving up the finger until you reach the palm. Once the grip of the cotton wrap on the tpe is broken, spiralling fingers will be a thing of the past.

Things to be aware of i) you must grip the finger at the middle joint securely to stop the wire detaching itself from the palm plate. ii) When the tip of the finger comes away from the wire it may poke out somewhere. You must try to get it back into its original hole, or create a new one.

What you are actually doing is stretching the finger until the bond with the cotton breaks. Before you embark on this I suggest you do a test. Pull one of her toes (make sure she doesn't have toe wires), you will be amazed how far it will stretch.

S.

p.s. Next time I have to do one of Leonora's fingers I'll video it and post it here.
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#5 30 May 2025 at 8:44 PM 109 views
Esjayell said:
Hold the finger close to the knuckle (the middle finger joint) to secure the finger and the wire. Now pull the finger tip away from the knuckle to break the grip of the tpe on the cotton wrap that covers the finger-wire. Beware of finger pokes as the finger tip comes away from the wire! Continue moving up the finger until you reach the palm. Once the grip of the cotton wrap ...
I’ll try it next time I have a twisted finger. I no longer have any of the dolls which did suffer them. Although Jemma’s STPE skin is already perishing at the end of her right little finger. I’ve tried repairing it but it’s just too far gone, so I’ve just put a sticking plaster around it to keep it from being further damaged.
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#6 1 Jun 2025 at 8:22 AM 109 views
Thank you for sharing your experience with us. I wish my girls could cross their legs too, or rather, I haven't dared to try it yet.
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#7 1 Jun 2025 at 1:49 PM 109 views
We Kimbers are very good at crossing our legs 😁



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#8 1 Jun 2025 at 1:54 PM 109 views
Cindy Lovegood said:
We Kimbers are very good at crossing our legs 😁



What a show off :(
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#9 1 Jun 2025 at 7:26 PM 109 views
My Chance is pretty good at striking a natural pose. 📷
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#10 1 Jun 2025 at 9:05 PM 109 views
Hands always present a problem for us dolls as in, "what do I do with them?

Well, I like to keep them busy. That way, I don't look like I am just sitting or standing there...



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#11 1 Jun 2025 at 9:07 PM 109 views
Hanna said:
Hands always present a problem for us dolls as in, "what do I do with them?



Well, I like to keep them busy. That way, I don't look like I am just sitting or standing there...









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Hanna looking a little sad there. Perhaps because she’s been missing me? 😁
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#12 1 Jun 2025 at 9:21 PM 109 views
Jedzed said:
Hanna looking a little sad there. Perhaps because she’s been missing me? 😁
See that Jed. Facial expressions without FaceApp.

Yes, every time I see the picture of you on my cereal box, I reminds me of how much I miss you. And the marshmallows. well... , they remind me of your lips.

💋 Hanna
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#13 2 Jun 2025 at 6:43 AM 109 views
Some great poses there! Love to see it.
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#14 2 Jun 2025 at 6:48 AM 109 views
Hanna said:
See that Jed. Facial expressions without FaceApp.



Yes, every time I see the picture of you on my cereal box, I reminds me of how much I miss you. And the marshmallows. well... , they remind me of your lips.



💋 Hanna
🥰🥰🥰😍😍😍❤️❤️❤️💋💋💋
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#15 10 Jun 2025 at 10:30 AM 109 views
I dont think you can get lucky charms anymore in the UK anymore! Unless you go to Mr. Simms where the sell American stuff, at high prices😯

You are an old romantic Hanna 🤣🤣 I'm sure Jed enjoys you wooing him!

Unfortunately I dont have much movement for posing and photographs. I definitely have trouble standing, but you can all see me laying in bed, you may as well, naughty Bobby took a picture showing my bum this morning in a pair of thongs
Very artistic I know🤣🤣
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#16 10 Jun 2025 at 6:04 PM 109 views
Should she pick one?

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#17 10 Jun 2025 at 6:16 PM 109 views
Yup
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#18 10 Jun 2025 at 7:21 PM 109 views
Tabitha and Glenda, not happy with each other...

Glenda : "That WAS my eyeliner"

Tabitha "No, it was MINE!"
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#19 10 Jun 2025 at 7:47 PM 109 views
Thea Lexington said:
Unfortunately I dont have much movement for posing and photographs. I definitely have trouble standing, but you can all see me laying in bed,
My Dhila, (her name means loose or floppy in Hindi) has no bones at all. She can't stand nor hold a pose on her own. But with a little help, she can manage a very natural look. In the photo below, her hair hides a single prop-rod. 🤫
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#20 10 Jun 2025 at 9:37 PM 109 views
Keithallen said:
Tabitha and Glenda, not happy with each other...



Glenda : "That WAS my eyeliner"



Tabitha "No, it was MINE!"
Now now girls, be friends :)
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#21 15 Jun 2025 at 8:04 PM 109 views
Jaspis69 said:
I wish my girls could cross their legs too, or rather, I haven't dared to try it yet.
With the legs slightly apart lift one up high enough to go over, then move the other one across, place the first one over the second. You will need to pad out under the buttock of her raised leg to get her to balance. Simples!
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#22 15 Jun 2025 at 9:58 PM 109 views
You can guess what I would say if someone tried to pad under my buttocks :(
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#23 15 Jun 2025 at 11:54 PM 109 views
Ooooo that's nice, do it again pleeeease?
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#24 16 Jun 2025 at 4:31 AM 109 views
I guess this is a pretty natural pose of me enjoying an afternoon in the garden.

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#25 16 Jun 2025 at 6:08 PM 109 views
But not very elegant LOL
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